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	<title>Roosenmaallen.com &#187; ClaimID</title>
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		<title>OpenID on Rosebleed.net</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 03:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Eddie Roosenmaallen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve finally finished up the OpenID signup for Rosebleed. The workflow is what you&#8217;d expect &#8211; OpenID box on the login form, if the given URL isn&#8217;t recognized then it redirects to the signup form and prepopulates it with the sreg fields.
I did notice a strange behaviour in OpenID; I&#8217;m not yet certain if I [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve finally finished up the OpenID signup for <a href='http://rosebleed.net'>Rosebleed</a>. The workflow is what you&#8217;d expect &#8211; OpenID box on the login form, if the given URL isn&#8217;t recognized then it redirects to the signup form and prepopulates it with the <code>sreg</code> fields.</p>
<p>I did notice a strange behaviour in OpenID; I&#8217;m not yet certain if I missed it in the spec or if it&#8217;s left to one&#8217;s judgement (note to self: read the spec again)&#8230; Anyway, here&#8217;s what happens:</p>
<p>- Say I sign up with &#8220;roosenmaallen.com&#8221;. This site delegates to my <a href='http://claimid.com/silvermoon82'>ClaimID page</a>, so the <code>openid.identity</code> response is <code>http://openid.claimid.com/silvermoon82</code>, and this is what I actually use to identify the user.<br />
To my thinking, I should be able to log in using &#8220;roosenmaallen.com&#8221; (since that delegates to my ClaimID), or claimid.com/silvermoon82, or openid.claimid.com/silvermoon82. These URLs all end up at the same identity, so they should be equivalent &#8212; and that&#8217;s how I implemented it on Rosebleed.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve noticed other OpenID-enabled sites handle this differently. On the <a href='http://openiddirectory.com/'>OpenID Directory</a> for instance, I first signed up as &#8220;claimid.com/silvermoon82&#8243;. I&#8217;ve gotten in the habit of logging in using roosenmaallen.com; but when I try that at OpenID Directory, I get an error message that my email address is already registered to my ClaimID URL.</p>
<p>So, barring finding that the spec keeps &#8220;equivalent&#8221; OpenID URLs separate, I think I&#8217;m in the right here; always open to feedback though.</p>
<p><strong>Update</strong> [2008-03-19]: I&#8217;ve checked <a href='http://openid.net/specs/openid-authentication-1_1.html#delegating_authentication'>the spec</a>, and as it turns out, I&#8217;m actually in the wrong:</p>
<blockquote><p>So, to use www.example.com as their Identifier, but have Consumers actually verify http://exampleuser.livejournal.com/ with the Identity Provider located at http://www.livejournal.com/openid/server.bml, they&#8217;d add the following tags to the HEAD section of the HTML document returned when fetching their Identifier URL.</p>
<p>&lt;link rel=&#8221;openid.server&#8221; href=&#8221;http://www.livejournal.com/openid/server.bml&#8221;&gt;<br />
&lt;link rel=&#8221;openid.delegate&#8221; href=&#8221;http://exampleuser.livejournal.com/&#8221;&gt;</p>
<p>Now, when a Consumer sees that, it&#8217;ll talk to http://www.livejournal.com/openid/server.bml and ask if the End User is exampleuser.livejournal.com, never mentioning www.example.com anywhere on the wire.</p>
<p>The main advantage of this is that an End User can keep their Identifier over many years, even as services come and go; they&#8217;ll just keep changing who they delegate to.</p></blockquote>

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